Release Date: April 30, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How should we think about net interest income (NII) going forward, given changes in rate expectations across your core markets? A: Hector Grisi Checa, CEO: Excluding Argentina, we expect NII to be slightly up in constant euros and slightly down year-on-year in current euros. We are assuming end rates at around 1.5% by the end of '25. Our ALCO portfolio has grown, and we have positive sensitivity to higher rates in Europe. In Brazil, we are well-positioned for lower rates, with an outlook improving for '25.
Q: Can you discuss any M&A and asset disposal opportunities, particularly regarding Santander's Polska? A: Hector Grisi Checa, CEO: We acknowledge speculation about a potential transaction involving Santander's Polska. We are in discussions with Erste for a potential sale of a 49% stake, but there is no certainty of an agreement. Completion would be subject to closing conditions and regulatory approvals.
Q: How should we think about group cost evolution throughout the year? A: Hector Grisi Checa, CEO: We reiterate our guidance for lower costs in current euros for '25 versus '24, despite inflation and FX pressures. Costs were 2% higher year-on-year in Q1 in constant euros but declined 1% in current euros. Our transformation is generating operational leverage, allowing us to maintain or reduce costs while increasing revenue.
Q: Can you provide an update on the performance of DCB Europe? A: Hector Grisi Checa, CEO: NII continues to perform well and is on track to benefit from lower rates. Fee income was impacted by regulatory changes in Germany, which has now been rebased. Impairments were higher due to a mix of items, but we are not concerned about credit quality. New origination is meeting return hurdles, and returns will improve with lower rates.
Q: What are your strategic growth priorities, and how do you plan to redeploy capital, especially if the sale of the Polish stake goes ahead? A: Hector Grisi Checa, CEO: The US is a significant growth market for us, and we will continue to deploy capital there as long as it's profitable. Our focus is on organic growth, which has been above 20%, and on share buybacks. We aim to continue growing our businesses and executing our transformation to deliver strong returns to shareholders.
Q: Can you provide an update on the UK motor finance business and the structural hedge in the UK? A: Jose Cantera, CFO: The structural hedge is almost EUR110 billion at a yield of 2.47%. We expect NII to go up in the UK by low single digits, in line with volume growth. The impact of the ring-fencing regime being discontinued is negligible, but a simpler operating framework would help banks contribute more to growth.
Q: What is your outlook for NII in Spain, and how do you see the cost of risk evolving? A: Jose Cantera, CFO: We have reduced interest rate sensitivity in Spain, and even if rates go down to 1.5% by year-end, we expect NII to remain strong. We don't see any risk to our guidance of a 1.15% cost of risk for the year, with different behaviors across countries.
Q: How do you view the competitive landscape in Mexico with Nubank gaining a banking license? A: Hector Grisi Checa, CEO: We welcome Nubank becoming a fully licensed bank as it levels the playing field. The competition is tough, but we have the tools to compete effectively. Our digital bank in Mexico is performing well, with strong client acquisition and deposit growth.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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