Release Date: February 27, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: What gives you confidence in the Roto-Rooter turnaround, and how much of this improvement is attributed to switching to a new marketing agency? A: Kevin McNamara, President and CEO, stated that the guidance is based on strong early-year performance and improvements in core business areas beyond sewer and drain cleaning. The new marketing agency has contributed somewhat, but it's still early, and challenges with Google remain. Michael Witzeman, CFO, added that intra-quarter improvements were observed, and the commercial business is creating a strong foundation for 2025.
Q: Regarding VITAS, do you believe you're capturing market share, and does your guidance include any census in Marion County? A: Nicholas Westfall, Executive Vice President, confirmed that the guidance does not include Marion County census for 2025. He noted that VITAS is capturing market share by offering differentiated services and attracting high-quality clinicians. Kevin McNamara added that Florida is a key market for VITAS, contributing significantly to growth.
Q: How are you thinking about share repurchases moving forward, and are any built into your guidance? A: Kevin McNamara stated that no share repurchases are included in the guidance. The company plans to continue programmatic share repurchases and may take larger actions when opportunities arise, maintaining zero leverage while returning cash to shareholders.
Q: What is causing the margin pressure at VITAS despite double-digit top-line growth? A: Nicholas Westfall explained that the margin pressure is due to a shift towards hospital-based admissions, which have shorter lengths of stay, impacting both revenue and margin growth. Kevin McNamara added that the company is managing within existing legal constraints, aiming for sustainable growth.
Q: Should we assume the Medicare cap headwind will continue beyond 2025? A: Nicholas Westfall indicated that managing the Medicare cap is part of normal operations, and the 2025 guidance reflects a similar cap limitation as 2024. Kevin McNamara noted that the company has been managing this since acquiring VITAS in 2004, and the current growth rate is sustainable long-term.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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