Release Date: February 26, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: Your cash and valuable management business grew 7% in the quarter. Can you deconstruct trends you're seeing from a price and volume perspective? A: Mark Eubanks, CEO: We continue to see volumes improve, moving towards a balanced ratio. Argentina's inflation moderation is impacting organic growth numbers. Price inflation remains positive across all regions. Our revenue profile is heavily influenced by AMS DRS growth, which is a mixed impact rather than price-driven. We expect positive trends in 2025, especially with the momentum in BGS.
Q: You're accelerating investments to improve margins in North America. Can you outline the opportunity and the investments being made? A: Mark Eubanks, CEO: We aim for a 20% EBITDA margin as a near-term target. Investments focus on route optimization technology, expected to be fully implemented by mid-year, and moving legacy tech to the cloud. Labor costs have improved by 310 basis points, showing productivity benefits. We expect North America to close the margin gap with Latin America.
Q: Can you break down your assumptions for organic growth in CIT and BGS businesses? A: Kurt McMaken, CFO: CDM is expected to grow in the low single digits. BGS is part of CDM and will also see consistent growth. There's a conversion impact as some business shifts from CDM to AMS DRS. We anticipate BGS growth to accelerate through 2025, especially in North America.
Q: AMS DRS organic growth was 23% for the year. Is the shift to Mid to High Teens growth due to comps or a more normalized rate? A: Mark Eubanks, CEO: The growth rate is slowing due to the law of large numbers and Argentina's inflation moderation. However, we expect Mid to High Teens growth to continue, supported by new partnerships with BP and Western Union, which will enhance our AMS and DRS offerings.
Q: How do FX headwinds impact your ability to generate and deploy free cash flow, particularly for share repurchases? A: Mark Eubanks, CEO: Free cash flow conversion will improve with margins. FX headwinds in high-margin geographies could impact conversion, but interest rate reductions and faster AMS DRS deployment will help. Capital efficiency is improving, as seen with a reduction in vehicles and branches, enhancing our network optimization.
Q: How much of AMS DRS growth came from legacy conversions versus new business wins? A: Mark Eubanks, CEO: Less than one-third of growth is from legacy conversions. Most DRS growth is from new business or competitive acquisitions. AMS growth is largely new business, especially in retail ATM networks and bank outsourcing.
Q: Can you discuss the impact of tariffs and global economic slowdowns on your business? A: Mark Eubanks, CEO: Tariffs have impacted global markets, particularly in precious metals like gold and silver, benefiting our logistics business. We have a large fixed-cost network that benefits from increased movement. We haven't seen significant impacts from local economic slowdowns related to tariffs.
Q: Would the discontinuation of the penny have any meaningful impact on your business? A: Kurt McMaken, CFO: The discontinuation of the penny is not an issue for us. Our coin business is immaterial in terms of impact, and it might even be beneficial as we are a major player in physical currency movement.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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