Participants

Eileen McLaughlin; Investor Relations, Vice President; Clear Channel Outdoor Holdings Inc

Scott Wells; President, Chief Executive Officer, Director; Clear Channel Outdoor Holdings Inc

David Sailer; Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President; Clear Channel Outdoor Holdings Inc

Cameron McVeigh; Analyst; Morgan Stanley

Daniel Audley; Analyst; Wells Fargo

Jonnathan Navarrete; Analyst; TD Cowen

Avi Steiner; Analyst; JPMorgan

Patrick Sholl; Analyst; Barrington Research

Presentation

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Clear Channel Outdoor Holdings Inc., 2024 fourth quarter earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions) As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Eileen McLaughlin, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Eileen McLaughlin

Good morning, and thank you for joining our call. On the call today are Scott Wells, our CEO; and David Sailer, our CFO. They will provide an overview of the 2024 fourth quarter operating performance of Clear Channel Outdoor Holdings Inc., and Clear Channel International BV.
We recommend you download the 2024 fourth quarter earnings presentation located in the financial information section of our investor website and review the presentation during this call. After an introduction and a review of our results, we'll open the line for questions.
Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that during this call we may make forward-looking statements regarding the company. Including statements about its future financial performance and its strategic goals. All forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties, and there can be no assurance that management's expectations, beliefs, or projections will be achieved or that actual results will not differ from expectations.
Please review the statements of risk contained in our earnings press release and our filings with the SEC. During today's call, we will also refer to certain measures that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We provide schedules that reconcile these non-GAAP measures with our reported results on a GAAP basis as part of the earnings presentation. When reviewing our earnings presentation, it's important to note that as of December 31, 2024, we have classified our Europe-North segment and Latin American businesses as discontinued operations for all periods presented.
Additionally, our Europe-South segment, including the business in Spain, was classified as discontinued operations in 2023. The consolidated results include the America segment, airport segment, and Singapore.
Also, please note that the information provided on this call speaks only to management's views as of today, February 24, 2025, and may no longer be accurate at the time of a replay. Please see see slide 4 in the earnings presentation. And I will now turn the call over to Scott.

Scott Wells

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for taking the time to join us today. Our recent agreement to sell our Europe-North segment as well as the recent sale of most of our businesses in Latin America marks significant progress in the execution of our plan to optimize our portfolio and focus on our higher margin US business. To date, we've closed deals amounting to approximately $120 million and have agreed to sell our Europe-North segment for $625 million.
We are also optimistic about our ability to invest our businesses in Spain and Brazil given their strong performance. As we said all along, we believe these sales will increase optionality and reduce risk in the business and focus 100% of our efforts on driving growth in our most profitable and valuable segments.
We anticipate prioritizing the use of sales proceeds after retiring the $375 million in CCIBV term loans to retire the most advantageous debt in our stack as permitted in our agreements to reduce cash interest and increase AFFO.
During the fourth quarter, our America segment delivered record revenue of $311 million representing an increase of 4.1%, driven by strength in digital and local sales, which was in line with our guidance. As we previously noted throughout the year, national remained somewhat choppy. However, we continued to win new business as a result of the investments we've been making in our technology and sales force.
Airports continue to perform well in the fourth quarter, with revenue increasing 4.3% to a record level of $116 million compared to a robust performance in the prior year and in line with guidance. Our airport's team delivered strong results throughout the year with consistent national demand for our premium assets and record-travel activity.
While the rate of growth normalized over the course of the year, we continue to see consistently strong demand. On a consolidated basis, we generated revenue of $427 million during the fourth quarter, representing an increase of 2.6%, which reflects the impact from a loss of a contract in Singapore as of December 31, 2023.
Excluding Singapore, revenue from the fourth quarter for our America and airport segments was up 4.1%. For the full year, we generated consolidated revenue of $1.505 billion representing a 5% increase over the prior year. Excluding Singapore, revenue for our American airport segments was up 6.6%.
Turning to 2025, we expect strength in our business to build as the year develops with healthy revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and AFFO growth. Feeling our optimism, we're benefiting from the more diverse revenue profile we've been building over the past few years as we have more levers to grow our top line.
Our roadmap for growth remains centered on expanding our digital footprint, strengthening our data and analytics capabilities, and strategically growing our sales force.
Building on our radar platform, we recently launched our CCO in-flight Insights measurement solution. Enabling advertisers to assess the impact of their out of home campaigns on store visits and gain insights into audience behaviors while campaigns are still live. We believe these initiatives are elevating our ability to make inroads with brands that have not been utilizing out of home to connect with their target audiences.
We're also seeing the benefits of our expanded sales force and verticalized focus where we have added professionals with experience and relationships in our target verticals. Beyond building business in pharma, we're laying the groundwork to grow our presence in the auto and beverage categories as well.
Finally, once we complete the Europe-North vestiture, we will be in position to take steps to further address our cost structure through zero-based budgeting. As we prioritize our spending to drive growth in our American and airport segments. All of these efforts are aimed at strengthening our higher margin US businesses and enhancing our ability to organically grow adjusted EBITDA and AFFO with a priority to reduce leverage and strengthen our balance sheet, a central goal in our focus on enhancing shareholder value.
Turning to our forecasts, full-year consolidated revenue is expected to reach between $1.562 billion and $1.607 billion representing a 4% to 7% increase over the last year. Dave will provide a detailed overview of our guidance in a moment.
In the current quarter, we are continuing to see revenue growth in our American airport segments. So overall we're pleased with the progress we're making in executing on our plan.
I'd like to thank our company-wide team for their continued contributions to our success. I especially thank our colleagues in Europe, North and Latin America for their hard work and operating focus throughout the sales processes. With that, let me hand the call over to Dave.

David Sailer

Thanks Scott. Please see slide 5 for an overview of our results. As Eileen just mentioned, as of December 31, 2024, we have classified our Europe-North segment and Latin American businesses as discontinued operations for all periods presented. Additionally, our Europe-South segment, including the business in Spain, was classified as discontinued operations in 2023.
Moving to our consolidated results, which include the America and airport segments. The amounts I refer to are for the fourth quarter of 2024, and the percentage changes are fourth quarter of 2024 compared to the fourth quarter of 2023, unless otherwise noted.
Now on to the fourth quarter reported results. Consolidated revenue for the quarter was $427 million a 2.6% increase. Loss from continuing operations was $1 million. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $145 million, up 2.5%. AFFO was $37 million a 1% increase.
Onto slide 6 for the America segment fourth quarter results. America revenue was $311 million, up 4.1%, with growth in both digital and print billboard revenue. Digital revenue, which accounted for 39.5% of Americans revenue, was up 7.6% to $123 million. Local sales accounted for 62.3% of American revenue and were up 6.9% on a comparable basis. This is the fifteenth consecutive quarter local has grown year over year.
National sales accounted for 37.7% of American revenue and were flat with the prior year on a comparable basis. Direct operating and SG&A expenses were up 6.5% to $174 million due in part to higher variable incentive compensation and a 3.6% increase in site lease expense to $93 million mainly driven by the new roadside billboard contract with the New York MTA.
Segment adjusted EBITDA was $137 million, up points for 7%, with a segment adjusted EBITDA margin of 44.1%, down from the prior year primarily due to the ramp up related to the New York MTA roadside billboard contract.
Please see slide 7 for a review of the fourth quarter results for airports. Airport's revenue was $116 million, up 4.3%, with strong advertising demand led by the Port Authority of New York, New Jersey, San Francisco, and Denver airports. Digital revenue, which accounted for 63.9% of airport's revenue, was up 1.5% to $74 million. National sales, which accounted for 63.9% of airports revenue were up 10.2% on a comparable basis.
Local sales accounted for 36.1% of airports revenue and were down 4.7% on a comparable basis. Direct operating and SG&A expenses were up 2.6% to $83 million. The increase is primarily due to a 3.2% increase in site lease expense to $67 million driven by lower rent abatements and higher revenue.
Segment adjusted EBITDA was $33 million, of 8.9%, with a segment adjusted EBITDA margin of 28.2%. This elevated margin is related in part to rent abatements that are not expected to continue in future periods.
Moving on to CCIBV on slide 8. Clear Channel International BV, which I will refer to as CCIBV is an indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of the company and the borrower under the CCIBV term loan facility.
CCIBV includes the operations of our European businesses, which have been classified as discontinued operations. Until September 17, 2024, it also included operations in Singapore which were sold to another indirect foreign wholly-owned subsidiary of the company. Historically, the financial results of the Singapore operations were immaterial to CCIBV's consolidated results.
Previously, we reported results of the Europe-South business as discontinued operations in the CCIBV consolidated statement of income. However, because all CCIBV businesses are now sold or held for sale, we have gone back to reporting CCIBV consolidated results, including businesses that are sold or held for sale as follows. CCIBV results for the fourth quarter of 2024 compared to the same period of 2023 are as follows. Revenue decreased 13.7% to $224 million from $260 million primarily due to the sale of the business in France on October 31, 2023. Operating income was $42 million compared to $38 million in the same period of 2023.
Now moving to slide 9 in our review of capital expenditures. CapEx totaled $35 million in the fourth quarter, flat with the prior year. The increase in America was due to timing and the decrease in airports was due to reduced spending at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey airports, as they are substantially built out at this point.
Now on to slide 10. During the fourth quarter, cash and cash equivalents were $164 million including $55 million held by discontinued operations. This represents a decline of $38 million as compared to the end of the third quarter 2024 primarily due to cash interest payments.
Cash paid for interest during the fourth quarter increased $17 million compared to the same period in the prior year, primarily due to the timing of interest payments in connection with the debt refinancing transactions that occurred in March of 2024.
Our liquidity was $346 million as of December 31, 2024, down $31 million compared to liquidity at the end of the third quarter.
Our debt was $5.7 billion as of December 31, 2024, in line with the third quarter. Our weighted average cost of debt was 7.4%, also in line with the third quarter.
As of December 31, 2024, our first lien net leverage ratio was 6.6 times. The credit agreement's springing covenant threshold is 7.1 times. Under the senior secured credit agreement, the calculation of the first lien net leverage ratio excludes the impact of all businesses classified as discontinued operations whether the sale is closed or pending. As a result, EBITDA from discontinued operations isn't included in the calculation. Additionally, the calculation doesn't give effect to the anticipated net cash proceeds from the sales of our international businesses or any intended uses therefrom.
Consequently, our first lien net leverage ratio as of December 31, 2024 is higher than in previous periods and may not be directly comparable to such periods. However, all things being equal after the paydown of the CCIBV term loans and the receipt of the Europe-North proceeds and the proceeds from the sale of our businesses in Mexico, Peru, and Chile, we expect our first lien net leverage ratio to be considerably lower.
Now on to slide 11 and our guidance for the first quarter and the full-year of 2025. For the first quarter, we expect our consolidated revenue will be between $329 million and $344 million, representing a 1% to 5% increase over the same period of the prior year. We expect America revenue to be between $252 million and $262 million. And airport revenue is expected to be between $77 million and $82 million.
Moving on to our full-year guidance. We expect the consolidated revenue to be between $1.562 billion and 1.607 billion, representing a 4% to 7% increase over the prior year.
America's revenue is expected to be between $1.19 billion and 1.22 billion. Airport's revenue is expected to be between $372 million and $387 million. On a consolidated basis, we expect an adjusted EBITDA to be between $490 million and $505 million.
AFFO guidance is $73 million to $83 million, representing an increase of 25% to 42% over the same period of the prior year. And due to uncertain timing, doesn't include the potential benefit of reduced interest expense. To be clear, this guidance does not include interest expense related to the CCIBV term loans.
Capital expenditures are expected to be in the range of $75 million to $85 million with a continued focus on investing in our digital footprint. Additionally, we anticipate having cash interest payment obligations of $77 million in the first quarter of 2025 and $422 million in 2025. This guidance assumes that we do not repay, refinance, or incur additional debt.
Upon the anticipated closing of the Europe-North businesses, we'll use the net proceeds after payment of transaction-related fees and expenses to prepay the CCIBV term loan facility. Excluding interest on the CCIBV term loan facility, we expect annual cash interest payments of approximately $394 million in 2025 and $393 million in 2026. Again, assuming that we don't repay, refinance, or incur additional debt. And now let me turn the call back to Scott.

Scott Wells

Thanks, Dave. To recap, we've made considerable progress in divesting our international businesses while strengthening our product offering in the US as we continue investing in our technology and strategically growing our sales force.
We remain committed to selling our businesses in Spain and Brazil, which will complete our plan to focus on our higher margin US business and generate cash for debt reduction. As we operate our simplified business, we're off to a promising start and expect to deliver growth and consolidated revenue and adjusted EBITDA in the year ahead.
Over the last few quarters to highlight our focus on cash generation, we have emphasized AFFO less discretionary CapEx. We continue to expect growth in that metric. But going forward with the simplification of our business, we will focus our comments on AFFO for which we anticipate significant compound growth. We expect this growth to be driven by adjusted EBITDA growth and debt reduction.
Now let me turn over the call to the operator.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. (Operator Instructions)
Cameron McVeigh, Morgan Stanley.

Cameron McVeigh

Hey, good morning. You guys -- morning. You provided a relatively-wide guidance range for the first quarter. Is this conservatism or is there more uncertainty out there now? Just curious any color you could provide there and maybe the macro expectations that are baked into the guide would be helpful. And then, secondly, if you could just walk through an update of how you're thinking margins should trend this year now that you've exited a few territories? Thanks.

Scott Wells

You want to take both those, Dave?

David Sailer

Sure. From a a guidance range, I mean it's usually our normal range that we kind of put out for the first quarter. But when I'm thinking about the first quarter there's a couple of little uncertainties when you think about what what went on in LA. But I feel pretty comfortable kind of where we are, from an airport standpoint and the guy's actually, I think, pretty tight in the first quarter.
When you think about it for the year, obviously, there's a lot that can go on between now and the end of the year. I mentioned what's going on in LA and just from an economic standpoint we have the new contract with the MTA so you know that's going to ramp as the year goes on. A little bit slower of a ramp as that contract ramps.
In the first part of the year as we get to towards towards the back half of the year. So I think that contract's going to ramp. And I think overall when I look at the year, I think it's going to be we're off to a little bit of a slower start. In the first part of the year we're going to have growth across both segments. But I do expect that to pick up as we get back into the third and fourth quarter. So from a guiding standpoint.
And what was the second question? I apologize --

Scott Wells

Margin trends.

David Sailer

Oh, from a margin standpoint. I mean we've talked about this many times when I think about the margins of our business. What we've talked about before is that MTA contract ramps that you know that will have an impact on our margins from an America's standpoint. And again the first quarter and this is apparent for both the Americas and airports standpoint and media businesses in general.
You're going to book more revenue as you get into the back half of the year and your margins will build throughout the year. But we'll see a little bit of a margin decline from the MTA contract. We've talked about airports and we've had a lot of rental rental abatements and because of COVID in 2023 and into 2024. And I think we've been pretty clear those will go away in 2025.
So from a margin standpoint we were definitely elevated. Especially in the fourth quarter for airports, and you know that will come back down to more normal levels. I think we've talked about in the past on airports we were in the high teens. We'll probably be in the 20% range as we get into into 2025. Some quarters will be a little bit higher, probably a little ramp as you get later into the year. And probably a little bit, tighter, smaller margins in the early parts of the year.

Cameron McVeigh

Makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Daniel Audley, Wells Fargo.

Daniel Audley

Thank you. Good morning. You mentioned national ads are flat year over year in Q4. So I was wondering what your expecting expectation for National is in '25? And what categories are seeing strength or weakness and add a follow up?

David Sailer

Sure. So, yeah. I mean, I think the word we keep using on national is choppy. And that's really specific to the American business. National was quite good in airports all-year long. It was up double digits in airports all-year long. So the choppiness is more in the roadside business.
I think what we have seen is just some relatively big campaigns coming in and out over the last couple of years. There there were COVID-related campaigns that were strong toward the end of 2023 that didn't recur in 2024.
Telecom came back in a pretty strong way over the course of 2024 it just has been. It just has been a little bit choppy and we're seeing those advertisers. We're having to do a lot more work to reliably get that money get that money in. And that's why we've been focused on doing category development doing the things we talked around with with data and so forth.
So I think as we look to the year, I think there's a couple of things that we think are are tailwinds within national spending for this year. I think California in general, you know coming out of the fires, of course, in Southern California. But particularly looking at San Francisco, Northern California, I think we're going to see some real strength in California this year.
The early look there is that advertisers are looking at that at that region. And coming back to that region in a pretty meaningful way again. Particularly in Northern California. There's a little more uncertainty in Southern California.
I think from a vertical perspective, we think that the the media entertainment slate is better than 2024 and that should be something that is a positive for us. We continue to see pharmaceuticals ramp. We think that will be good for us over the course of this year. And we we do have efforts going into a number of other categories that that we're looking to drive.
And I am encouraged by what I'm seeing in telecom and I actually think the T-Mobile acquisition of Visar is a positive data point within that broader category that it's an endorsement of the importance of out of home for telecom. So I think those are some of the puts and takes. But until we get to the point where our pipeline is what's driving national as opposed to the very varied in and out campaigns. It's going to remain a little choppy in that segment. We need to get sort of similar momentum as we've enjoyed in the airport segment.

Daniel Audley

That's helpful. Thank you.

Operator

Jonnathan Navarrete, TD Cowen.

Jonnathan Navarrete

Hey, good morning. Just want to touch on the MTA Billboard contract. Should we still be expecting 2% growth there for the American segment, and can we talk a little bit about the CapEx even with the ramp related to the contract?

David Sailer

Sure, I mean, from a, from an MPA standpoint, when I'm looking at it from a full year, from a revenue standpoint, yeah, you're going to get a couple points of growth, on top of the America's stand the America segment. Obviously that's going to grant that's going to ramp a little slower in the first quarter, but I'll ramp because we obviously that contract started in November. From a CapEx standpoint.
And that's we're going to, that's going to run through our normal cap X, so you're not going to see a spike in the overall business from a spending standpoint on CapEx.that that'll be part of our digital upgrades and in our normal, kind of maintenance cap X. I mean it will be higher obviously in the first several years of the contract. But I don't think you're going to see, a spike as far as from our overall CapEx, and it's it's included in our guidance that we're thinking about, but that will help the contract as you're spending CapEx on that property as you get into the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year because it will take those new boards in a little bit of time to ramp.

Jonnathan Navarrete

Got it. Thanks. And just the last one is on airports, local revenue during the 4th quarter. I think I've calculated there was a decrease there, year to year. I'm just wondering if maybe you could talk a little bit about that and if there's a trend that we should be aware of.
Thank you.

David Sailer

No, I'm, if you look at it for the full year, I mean, it's up double digits, so it's just kind of the ebbs and flows. There were a few direct deals, just some comps that we had year over year that roll up into into the local number, but if you think about that local number for the full year, I mean, it's up pretty substantial actually in the high level digits. Probably closer to 20%, so really no concerns from my standpoint on that fourth quarter number and National was up. So overall I think this segment performed really well and it was, when you think about that 4th quarter and where we were 3 or 4 years ago, I mean that that segment's up $30 to $40 million so it's performing quite nicely.

Operator

Avi Steiner, JPMorgan.

Avi Steiner

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking the questions. I have two here if I can. One curious what the implied guide for corporate is in '25, and I apologize if I missed it. I hopped on a couple of minutes late. And then relatedly I guess as more assets get sold here and you get down to your kind of core-US focus. I'm curious if there's upside to that corporate number and I have one follow up. Thank you.

David Sailer

But from a corporate expense standpoint, which I'm assuming you're talking about. How's it going, Avi? When we had sent them said in the past that our corporate expenses, roughly $31 million of expenses. I'd say that number is probably closer to mid-$30 millions at this point in time. We're continuing to work on that. And I think you'll see savings as we get into this year, obviously as the divestitures are made.
But really I think you'll see that, more of an impact as we get into 2026 when -- because we'll still have all the reporting, we still have the companies that are signed but not closed, so a lot of that work is still ongoing. But at this point in time, I see a lot of sight closer to the mid-$30 millions. And I think that number will grow as we get later into the year and as we're working on it into '26, you'll see more expenses come out.

Avi Steiner

That is very helpful. Thank you. And then my last one. And thank you for the time, Scott. You've been talking about getting down to a core US focused business for a long time, and while it took a little longer than expected, to your credit we're really right on the doorstep here. So I guess the question is how do you tackle the balance sheet or how do you think about tackling the balance sheet from here while investing as you want in the US business? Are they mutually exclusive, can you do both and thank you again for the time?

Scott Wells

Thanks, Avi. Yeah. No, I appreciate the question. And it however long it felt to you I assure you it felt longer to us. So we're very pleased to be at a point that we're making the good progress that we've made.
I've said it in a few settings as we shift from divesting the European businesses, which has been a pretty substantial effort of corporate development, finance, just human resources. I mean the amount of diligence done across all these businesses is just kind of staggering.
As we get past that, we're going to be able to take the creativity and the energy that's been focused in that area and focus it on things we can do. And there are a few things that make me feel good about our odds. I think thing one is that we are a very innovative bunch here. And we have some very creative ideas that we're looking forward to testing in the marketplace that we think all of our stakeholders will value if we're successful.
Can't can't promise that they will succeed, but can promise to show similar doggedness in trying to drive those innovative solutions that are kind of win-win wins. I think the other part that makes me optimistic is not a week goes by that somebody's not trying to get me to opine on the out-of-home sector to some investor. And I don't do any of those routinely, particularly not in our quiet periods of course.
But I know there is a ton of research going on in this sector. And I think we're a really interesting and really credible partner for people who want to invest in this space and that there might be some creative things we can do along those lines to create opportunities for growth. Maybe not using our capital but maybe with us benefiting from the activity.
Again, can't promise anything. We haven't started working on that yet. But I think of those as kind of the more innovative and creative things. And then I think the other thing you gotta factor in we're going to have excess proceeds over the BV. And I think there are some creative things we can do to accelerate that AFFO growth that is going to allow us to bring down the interest expense and bring up AFFO, bring up cash flow. And start to get into the functioning, high-functioning public LBO position that we aspire to be as opposed to the, stuck in place public LBO that we've kind of felt like the last couple of years.
So I'm pretty upbeat on our prospects as we start to get these things done. So hopefully that gives you enough flavor without me giving away too much of the store here.

Avi Steiner

No, heck of a teaser thank you very much for the time, safe travels. Thank you.

Scott Wells

Thanks, Avi.

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Patrick Sholl, Barrington Research.

Patrick Sholl

Hi, good morning. A question on the capital spending plans. I was just wondering with the focus with now with the greater focus on the US. Do you anticipate sort of accelerating the pace of digital board installations? And I was also curious on how I guess trade uncertainty has kind of impacted those investment plans.

Scott Wells

Sure, so we've kept a pretty steady pace of adding signs to our portfolio. And I don't think we're going to particularly accelerate it. And that's at least partly driven by where our footprint is. There are three or four of our cities that are under penetrated and digital that we're working very diligently to get opportunities to expand in digital. And should those opportunities break, we will accelerate at that point.
Much of the rest of our footprint we're doing a really good job of just kind of expanding around the perimeter and expanding the core of already robust digital offerings. We have everything from markets that are in low signal digit percent revenue all the way to markets that are 60% digital revenue. And this is in roadside and airports. It's advanced of that in terms of the the sort of spread.
So i don't think we think that principally converting our own digital signs setting aside the three or four cities where there's ordinance changes that could help us. It is going to be our principal thing. We'll continue to do that at a steady rate but we're not going to -- there's not a lot of upside in us just accelerating that.
And then I think, beyond that what I was referring to with Avi may be a place that we creatively deploy some capital, maybe in conjunction with partners and things along those lines. But I'm speculating as that as that develops.

Patrick Sholl

Okay, and then just within the digital revenues that you generate on both billboards and airports. Is there sort of a breakdown that you could provide on like the mix of local versus national within that?

David Sailer

No, I mean, I would look at it and it's very similar to just kind of the overall business when we kind of break out local national. I don't think it's going to be wildly different, from those numbers when you look at it from a digital or printed sign. From a client standpoint they are national clients that like digital, that like printed. It's the same on the on the local side. So I don't think it'd be wildly different.

Operator

Okay, thank you. With no further questions in the queue, I would like to turn the conference back over to management for closing remarks.

Scott Wells

Great. Thank you, operator. Thank you everyone for joining us today. We appreciate the interest and the time. I think the main thing I want to mention as we wrap up is that we understand we have a lot of moving parts in our financials. And that it can be somewhat confusing as things go into disk ops and as we work the tail on on transition services and bring down corporate expense.
We appreciate that. And we have a plan to get an Investor Day together. For the end of the summer where we will be able to shed some further light and do some more unpacking of the kind of questions areas that people have had here. So I just wanted to put that that place mark out there and we'll certainly be talking with you between now and then. But appreciate everyone's interest and and wish you a good balance of the week.

Operator

Thank you. This will conclude today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation.