Release Date: February 21, 2025
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
Q: How are you viewing the risk-reward trade-off of Agency RMBS and Agency CMBS, especially in light of the current dividend level? A: Brian Norris, Chief Investment Officer, explained that Agency CMBS spreads were attractive at the beginning of the fourth quarter, but as spreads tightened, Agency RMBS became more appealing. The current focus is on Agency RMBS due to reduced volatility in the first quarter.
Q: Can you discuss your comfort with the current dividend level given the blend of spreads? A: John Anzalone, CEO, stated that the dividend is reviewed based on current and projected ROEs, historical averages, and competitive environment. The company remains selective about adding Agency CMBS, ensuring ROEs align with risk profiles.
Q: How are you thinking about swap spreads going forward, and will there be changes to the hedge position? A: Brian Norris noted that while hedging with swaps is cheaper due to negative swap spreads, the volatility adds risk. The company targets 20-30% of Treasury futures in the current environment and is comfortable with the current hedge mix.
Q: What is your outlook on Agency Mortgage, and does it include concerns about GSE reform? A: Brian Norris mentioned that the market has not reacted to GSE reform headlines, indicating low concern. The cautious outlook is more about monetary and fiscal policy uncertainties, though current spreads still offer attractive ROEs.
Q: How do you view preferred stock in your capital structure, and has this view shifted recently? A: John Anzalone explained that the preferred stock was more relevant when the portfolio mix included loans and securitizations. Post-COVID, the focus is on reducing preferred stock to about 20% of the capital structure through growth or repurchasing.
For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.
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