Lennox FY2025 Q2 Earnings Call Summary and Q&A Highlights: R454B Transition and Strategic Partnerships Drive Growth
Earnings Call
24 Jul
[Management View] Lennox International's management highlighted successful execution in navigating the R454B refrigerant transition, with 90% of refrigerant-based product sales using R454B in Q2 FY2025. Strategic joint ventures with Samsung and Ariston are expected to contribute to growth in 2026 and 2027, respectively.
[Outlook] The company raised its full-year adjusted EPS guidance to $23.25-$24.25 and revenue growth outlook to 3%. Volume forecasts for the second half anticipate further declines, but pricing and mix benefits are expected to support margins.
[Financial Performance] Revenue grew 3% in Q2, driven by favorable product mix and pricing. Segment margin reached a record 23.6%, and operating cash flow was $87 million. Adjusted EPS was $7.82, exceeding expectations.
[Q&A Highlights] Question 1: What are the A2L manufacturing costs and tariff impacts? Answer: A2L conversion costs and prices are as expected, with productivity gains offsetting inefficiencies. Tariffs will increase slightly in the second half, but margin expansion is still anticipated.
Question 2: Can you elaborate on volume assumptions for the second half? Answer: HCS volumes are expected to decline 8% in the second half, with price mix up 10%. BCS volumes will decline 4%, with price mix similar to the first half.
Question 3: What is the margin outlook for the full year? Answer: A 50 basis point expansion in margins is projected for the full year, with HCS up more than 50 basis points and BCS closer to flat.
Question 4: What feedback have you received on the Ariston partnership? Answer: Dealer feedback has been positive, with expectations for meaningful growth starting in 2027 as water heaters transition to heat pump technology.
Question 5: How are you managing price mix and consumer affordability? Answer: Pricing is managed regionally using AI tools, with a focus on balancing price and share. Consumer price elasticity is considered, but dealer markups play a significant role.
Question 6: What is the status of the R454B canister shortage? Answer: Inventory with 30 feet line length precharge is now available, and canister availability has improved, reducing dealer concerns.
Question 7: How is the emergency replacement initiative progressing? Answer: The initiative has expanded to five or six markets, with plans to place commercial products in residential stores to enhance service responsiveness.
[Risks and Concerns] Risks include ongoing R454B canister shortages, potential tariff impacts, and subdued residential new construction demand. Management is focused on mitigating these risks through strategic initiatives and productivity gains.
[Final Takeaway] Lennox International demonstrated strong performance in Q2 FY2025, driven by successful R454B transition and strategic partnerships. While challenges such as canister shortages and tariff impacts persist, the company is well-positioned for future growth with raised guidance and ongoing strategic initiatives. Management's focus on productivity and pricing excellence supports confidence in achieving long-term objectives.
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